(im asking these question, for my project)

before i start making my research

1. i want to know whats exactly the difference between a fireworks and a pyrotechnic?

2. in my project, i will first talk about fireworks, the composants of a salute tube and then i will talk about fireworks displays, their advantages, disadvantages and what we can do with it, except the problem is im not sure what i should call this part, should i call "Pyrotechnic" or "pyromuscial"? and remember it must be related to fireworks, in general

3. also, could someone name me more advantages and disadvantges
for advantages: profits (La Ronde -> making money)
disadvantges pollutions (pollution, smoke, complaints), then i will talk about how to fix the problem, using a system that wont cause pollution
any more?

4. how do u call a "salute" in french?

5. another question, if ever there was a technical problem with the audio, will the fireworks stop automaticly? vise versa

please post in french, if its easier for u

Hi Enkil

Well, I'll try to answer them as good as i can - but i'm not 100% sure of it all...

1) Pyrotehnics is a generel term, that includes fireworks, the blast-devices in airbags and a lot of other things we don't know excist many places in our everyday life.
To say it in another way:
Pyro= Fire --> Firetechnics... = Everything that makes a reaction based on some chemical mixtures... And fireworks are one of these niches.

2) I would call if fireworks, because you pahaps could be mistaken by some freaky professor If you use the word fireworks and pyromusicals i'm pretty sure you should make your point.

3) Advantages: Entertainment, universal joy regardless of age, origin, skin-color etc. It brings people together. The "Karma" of fireworks is to make people happy and that's what i like about it
Disadvantages is like you mention the pollution and that it can bother people who don't like it...
Regarding a system to make no smoke, many people has probably been trying to solve it...
Pahaps it could be possible to mix a chemical to purify the formulas? It would probably be very expensive, and therefore nobody would buy them... Money determines virtually everything in this world today

4) I have never spoken a word french so i can't help you there

5) That depends if you're running timecode through a DAT-player. In that case yes, because there is a track on the tape only for information about the firing-cues. But if you run it seperately the firing module naturally will continue - so hate when it does that

I hope this could help you? If you want more detailed answers let me know and i'll try... But regarding the chemestry in it i'm not that expirienced, though

Regards,
Lars

Lars,

sorry for the late reply, ive been very busy this week, here a few questions i still need to ask

1) and 2)

i cant call this part "fireworks", heres how i will present it on Powerpoint
1. Intro
2. Fireworks
3. (unknown)
4. Concl

on the 2nd section, i will talk about the composants of a salute, how it works

now i was thinking about calling it "Pyrotechnic show"
do u think its more appropriate?

3) thx for the info, ill add "Entertainment" in the advantage list

5) thx for the info

To call it a pyrotechnic show is pretty much op to your taste, i would say... But you could do that, explaining that it is fireworks and not blast-devices i air-bags you are talking about
(in extention to the previous description)

Good luck - it's a great topic to write about if you are able to keep it relevant for your schoolwork

Lars

Enkil,

It's been a while sice I've posted here. Like you, I've been very busy with TONS of essays and tests. Anyways, good to be back and good to know that your project is going along well.

I will also try to answer your questions, but it looks like Lars was able to help you out. Anyways, I'll give you some of my feedback.

1) Pyrotechnics involves the entire field and art of designing and creating fireworks along with the works of chemicals and compounds to give the proper effects, like colors and shapes and so forth, similar to what Lars suggested. In essence, the term revolves around "fire", hence the name "pyrotechnician", one who deals with pyrotechnics.

2)I think you should use the term pyrotechnics because you are covering the basic concepts of the overall field. You could also refer to "puromusical" if you want to demonstrate or emphasize the Mondial SAQ. Describe the term and explain how it's done. Remember to be specific and concrete.

3) I'm either compelled or reluctant to answer this question in terms of the disadvantages of fireworks. Many argue that smoke intake to adjacent houses is constantly being a problem. This partly a reason for the negative effects of fireworks. Anyways, I don't want to get on the contraversial part of it. The advantages of it is that, as Lars said, entertainment for the audience and the general appreciated professional crafted designed art of a pyromusical display. Ask any Montreal fireworks fan out there! More on this later.

4) It's hard to give the translation of the word salute in French. I've checked with some dictionnaries, but obviously, it refers to when you salute someone, not the actual terminology of the pyrotechnic term. All I got was "saluer"

5) It appears Lars was able to help you there.

Let us know if need anymore help. I find it fun helping you out with your project, especially since its relevance is realted to fireworks in depth!

Regards,

Trav.

nevermind what i posted

The french term for salute is marron. Probably because the actually salutes themselves resemble chestnuts (before they are fired of course).

Paul.

Paul,

How would you say mines and shells in french?

BTW, long time no see! Good to hear from you again, Paul.

Trav.

well, right now i dont need to know anything about salutes

im using the example of a "shell", which i believe is the basic of every type of fireworks that excist

i will talk the composant of a shell and how it works, ive found alot of interessing stuff

im preparing everything with the help of my partner
ive took the informations pretty much from everywhere, on Mondialsaq.com, this website and this forum, all mixed
i might force me to make a website, because the teacher wants us to make our sujects public, im going to ask him if i can do a website
regardless the answer, i will make one for the fun of it

the problem is the videos im using r from here and mondialsaq and other stuffs r copyright... so it might take time for me releasing, everything must be done before Christmas.
it will be in french, no need to make another english one, we have alot of infos in english

anyways, i need to know how we say "shell" in french, from now on ill ask my chemistry teacher for the names lol

heres an other question i need to ask, a complicated one rather

i need to know..

when u want to launch simultaneously roman candles

1) when u want it to be done automaticly, what computer, system/whatever is used? is there a picture of it?

also, i just what to make sure that the "computer, system/whatever" automaticly controls the show, without the interference of a human

2) when u want it to be done manualy, what computer, system/whatever is used? is there a picture of it?
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can roman candles be launched simultaneously when its done manualy?

hard to explain but hopefully i made a bit of sence
maybe the pictures r in http://www.montreal-fireworks.com/setup.html (just a tip)

There are many firing systems for launching fireworks automatically (i.e. from a pre-defined script). The two most popular systems are PyroDigital and FireOne. There is a picture of a PyroDigital field controller on the setup page of this site. Both FireOne and PyroDigital can also be used to fire manually, however, this is usually overkill. There are many other manual (electrical) firing systems. PyroMate make some very good manual firing systems (as well as computerized ones as well).

You can launch many simultaneous fireworks with whatever firing system you want - the fact that the firing system initiates the devices electrically is the key. Just connect up as many electric matches as are appropriate (depends on the system you use as well to certain extents).

As for the earlier questions, in French a mine is often called a volcan (because it is a bit like a volcano) and shells are called bombes. Unfortunately, calling them bombs in English is not a good idea! Neither are they called rockets or fusees. These are self-propelled devices, not shot from a mortar like shells.

More information on Pyrodigital at: http://infinityvisions.com

More information on FireOne at: http://fireone.com

More information on PyroMate at: http://pyromate.com

Cheers,

Paul - just back from the Canadian Fireworks Association Summit meeting

Hi guys!i have just registered to this forum!!it sounds good!!first of all my real name is volcan!!so you can see that i was born for pyrotecnics!! i m from turkey and i interest in to Pyrotechnics involves the entire field and art of designing and creating fireworks!
There are many firing systems for launching fireworks automatically
and yes most popular systems are admin wrote that fireone,pyrodigita and pyromate!!
i have found a system from argentina it calls PyroMusicalFireworksCentre
more information:www.blastdivision.com.ar
it seems cheaper and usefull..
i am so sory for my bad english
goodluck

For you question about timecode:

if you broadcast your audio from a DAT or Minidisc and there's a problem with reception, the internal timecode of the firing module will pick up. (At least this is true with Pyrodigital) I've been told that longer is the downtime period more you will get a difference in sync... but fortunately, I never experienced the problem!

thanks for all the answers
i might not be able to talk to the class about most of questions i asked, question of time

but i again have a few more questions

my first question, is it in general essay to produce a pyrotechnic show? does it take a lot of work and concentration? filling the tubes, etc i just need a yes or no answer for this one

my second question is: i need a clear definition of "pyrotechnic show", ive written one, but i want to know if theres something i should add, etc

English version: It is when we gather several pyrotechnics materiels to form a show. We connect each materiels together with an electric wire attached to a system computer. This system can launch materiels simultaneously and it controls everything.

French verson: C'est lorsqu'on rassemble plusieurs pièces pyrotechniques pour former une spectacle. On connecte chaque pièce ensemble avec un fil électrique qui est attaché à un systeme ordinateur. Cette machine peut lancer des pièces simultanément et elle controle tout.

your free to answer me in french, which would be better for me, if its essay for u

Hi Enkil,

this is how I would say it it french:

Assemblage de plusieurs pièces pyrotechniques pour créer un spectacle. Chaque pièce est connectée à un fil électrique relié à une console de mise-à-feu informatisée. Cette console contrôle le tir de une ou plusieurs pièces selon une séquence pré-établie.

Hope it helps