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Weather Cooperation (or not) for Winter 2005.

 
 
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Author Enkil
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#1 | Posted: 3 Dec 2005 08:15 
Traditionally, Smoke and I post weather reports before a fireworks show. I thought it would be worth doing one for Feux Glace TELUS.

Unfortunately, tonight will be very cold. In fact, it will be one of the coldest night of the season. The wind will die down a little bit, but it will still be a factor (W 20 km/h). The temperature will be -8°C, however, with the wind chill, it will feel like -15°C! As for precipitation, despite all the clouds I see all over North America, looks like it won't snow tonight.

Enjoy this 15min show presented by Royal Pyrotechnie. And remember to dress very warm!

Author Smoke
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#2 | Posted: 3 Dec 2005 11:12 
Hi Enkil,

Thanks for starting the thread. Although it's not a typical competition, it's still always good to know the latest reports on the weather, especially considering this Winter like scenario, particularly today.

It seems that Enkil covered it all for me! Thanks, Enkil! Keep in mind that I'm more than certain that it will be cold this evening since we're calling for mainly clear skies, and I suppose you all know what happens when that occurs! Although the winds will die down somewhat, it will be enough to make you tremble, trust me.

Anyways, I don't think that I will be able to attend. Most likely I 'll attend the later ones. Most likely the 16th will be appropriate for me. If not that, then the 24th.

As a final note, if any of you should go, except Enkil, since I know he's not going, I hope to see a small report! And yes, as Enkil said, keep warm!

My gosh, this thread really causes my mind to be flooded with summer weather report memories.

Best regards,

Trav.

Author Smoke
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#3 | Posted: 9 Dec 2005 11:23 
Greetings guys,

Tomorrow's weather is ideal, though isolated to periods of flurries are in the forecast, which I'm sure Pierre would love! Winds will be sort of breezy at times at anywhere from 25 to possibly 30 km/h from the SW. I'm sure this will give a slight windchill of about -5 to -6C. The temperature will be comfortable, mild and above average, but I'm going to give an approximate range of 0 to -2C, though I wouldn't be surprised if it crossed above the freezing point. However, the temperature will drop somewhat in the evening, obviously, but it will be comfortable.

Sunday is the snowy day, well, for now. As much as I despise snow and the cold (sorry, Pierre), it's ok for this time of the year, I guess, though I still want it gone!

Enjoy the show, guys, but still dress warmly, naturally.

Trav.

Author Salutes lover
Member 
#4 | Posted: 11 Dec 2005 06:14 
Hey guys,

I must thank you both, Enkil and Trav, for taking the time to write those weather reports, before the winter firework displays. It helps us dress accordingly. I must say that your reports were very accurate (both of you). I was dressed warmly yesterday evening (Saturday Dec. 10th) and I was glad I was, because even though it was not as windy as the previous Saturday, the wind chill factor was there for sure.......and it was quite humid too. Still, it was more comfortable yesterday, than on the first Saturday.

Also, I really enjoyed the fact that the ground was covered with the white stuff this time, making the display even more interesting than last Saturday. Indeed, the snow reflected the light of the fireworks as they exploded, making the night a lot brighter!

And you are so right Trav..........I just can't wait for it to snow heavily (or at least lightly), while watching fireworks. I have never experienced such a thing in the past, but I am sure it must be something spectacular! There's still two displays to go, so I will pray for snow Perhaps a "rain dance" (when it's below zero Celcius) an hour before the display might work? I'll give it a try!

Oh Trav........its quite all right for you to despise snow and cold temperatures, my friend! I realise I am in the minority here and I understand why people hate it so much........but I guess the child in me is still pretty much alive when it comes to winter!

Have a great rest of the weekend.....

Pierre

Author Smoke
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#5 | Posted: 13 Dec 2005 20:14 
Hi Pierre,

Don't mention it! Enkil and myself are always pleased to report on the latest of weather conditions for you guys to dress appropriately and what to "possibly" expect. I quote possibly, as the weather can change on many situations, so sometimes one report per day is necessary.

As for the snow, I don't plan on disliking you for that, so don't worry! It's quite alright, my friend. Some people simply love it, while others inevitably loathe it. In either case, it's still our weather and we must be prepared for anything. Winter weather is trickier than that of summer's, but I'm doing my best in understanding different aspects of it and how they occur.

Thank you very much for your kind remarks, Pierre! We will continue to inform you and everyone here when applicable.

Regards,

Trav.

Author Salutes lover
Member 
#6 | Posted: 14 Dec 2005 12:52 
This is great, Trav. I will be on the lookout, to read your future weather reports for sure.

See ya later!

Pierre

Author Smoke
Member 
#7 | Posted: 15 Dec 2005 17:38 
Hi Pierre and everyone else,

Well guys, do you like snow? Well, here comes one big storm that may produce an upwards of 30 cm. However, my range will be 20-30 cm. It will feel like Christmas when you all wake up in the morning. Winds will be breezy in the afternoon to gusty, perhaps.

I know this isn't for the fireworks night, but it does, indeed, play a role on Saturday. I'll have more details on that as in gets closer. For now, don't go out long if you don't have to tomorrow. Actually, don't go out at all! I've known about the storm for about 4 days now, but I didn't have time to let you all know, but I'm sure you all heard about well ahead of time. It's a result of a "Colorado low" mixed in with an Alberta clipper. They will merge together causing one big storm. Winter, only being 6 days away, looks like it's starting off early and probably is wanting to pay us back for all the bonus hot or mild days we've gotten.

In other words, no rest for the wicked.

Pierre,

I'm sure tomorrow you'll enjoy yourself. I guess I can admit that it will be nice to watch the snow to come down, but I still have mixed feelings about it.

Enkil,

Did you receive my email? I seem to be having trouble getting to you. Let me know if you received it.

Trav.

Author Smoke
Member 
#8 | Posted: 17 Dec 2005 09:18 
Hey guys,

Despite yesterday's severe snow storm that dumped about 41 cm locally, has given way to a more calm, though breezy, day with plenty of sunshine with some cloudy periods here and there. Winds will be, as I said, breezy at about 25-30 km/h from the W and SW causing windchills in the -7 to-9 C range. Our high is ideal and is a rather nice improvement from those days that were engulfed with that cold Arctic air that descended upon us for several days causing lows in the -20s and highs in the minus teens. Then was that big storm yesterday that caused problems. So today, in essnce is a much better day for the fireworks tonight.

Tonight's windchill will be about -8 to -9 C. Winds will still be breezy at 20 km/h from the SW (southwest). The initial low is -3 C this evening, but -6 C overnight. Same kind of cloud situation as during the day. So, it's more comfortable and satisfactory for tonight.

Other than that, be careful if you're out this morning or afternoon with that sun and its reflectivity off the snow, which can really make it hazardous when driving and even walking. And thank goodness that the Winter storm wasn't today. After recording snow measurements yesterday frequently, it was hard to believe how fast the snow was accumulating! I haven't seen a storm like this in a very long time. Probably since 2000.

Oh yes, guys, Winter officially begins in 4 days, as is the shortest day of the year. After that, time will slowly recover, but very slowly mind you.

Enjoy the show tonight and be careful on the way there as it is still treacherous.

Trav.

Author Salutes lover
Member 
#9 | Posted: 17 Dec 2005 11:23 
Hey Trav,

Thank you so much for your weather report, my friend. It will be so nice to see the fireworks this evening and the reflection of the different colors on the snow!

Yes, we did get 41cm yesterday, but amazingly, this is still less than that snowstorm we had in Montreal on March 4th, 1971 which left 48cm with very windy conditions (blizzard)...........making conditions a lot more difficult! I remember it so well, as if it was yesterday.....I was just a kid back then!

I promise I will be careful on my way to the Old Port this evening, Trav! ;-)
Enjoy the fireworks!

Pierre

Author Smoke
Member 
#10 | Posted: 17 Dec 2005 12:07 
Hey Pierre,

Always happy to be of help. However, I won't be able to make it tonight, unfortunately.

However, I look forward to your report, as well as some others, too!

Take care, my friend!

Trav.

Author Enkil
Member 
#11 | Posted: 17 Dec 2005 13:19 
Hey guys,

Smoke, I did recieve your email. Thank you.

Pierre, I was going to mention the 1971 storm!

Yesturday was amazing! In the morning, I was so excited to go out and "be in the storm". When I left home at 6am, all alone outside on the street, I experinced a backflash! All that wind, that snow and that whiteness reminded me of the early 90s! Yesturday's storm was a REAL storm and we haven't really seen anything like it for a long time. It was really fun waiting for the bus and watching outside. I know they said the winds would gust at 50km/h, but I thought it wasn't strong enough! BTW, the bus I had to take got busted. We had to wait 20min for the next one. I know in the bus, people were all frustrated, but me, I was so excited lol. I wasn't even worried to arrive late at school, lol.

And yes, college was open! Exactly, half of the students were absent in my first class. The teacher said, something as big as this wouldn't close the college. Apparently, the 1971 storm, that hit Montreal in March 4th, with 43cm according to CFCF (might be 48cm) with winds blowing at 100 - 150 km/h, known as "Storm of the Century", didn't even close the school, however they were forced to sleep in gym for the night because the buses weren't working!

But why did this had to happen during exams?!!
Anyways, I can say I love huge snow storms like these. And I can't wait for the next one!

Author Smoke
Member 
#12 | Posted: 17 Dec 2005 14:02 
Hi Enkil,

Yes, I know what you mean. I love the thought of a big storm on the way, yes, even SNOW storms, as much as I hate snow, but it's still a storm. You seem to have enjoyed yourself. I'm like that, too, when in time of crisis.If I had to wait for the bus that long, I would just have walked back home and forget about school. I would have just jumped in bed and slept.

Oh yes, Enkil, I forgot to say that this reminded me of the early 90s when storms like this weren't uncommon. And mind you, it's not even Winter yet.

I have predicted a terrible Winter since back in July and I hope it would not continue this way. If more storms like this occur, we will have no more place to put the snow and will be crippled. The more moist it is out there, the bigger the snow flakes and the closer the temperature is to the freezing mark, the more ideal it is for snow to be abundant. I have heard several theories about the wild weather expected.

Btw, Enkil, I'm missing you already! And yes, it's too bad that you have exams this week coming with all this snow. I just went to do Christmas groceries! Trust me, we could have 300 cm and school would still be open. What a bunch of ignorant idiots. Really, in Toronto, or in many parts of this nation, school closes in even 15-20 cm!

Pierre,

Thank you for that link you sent about the 1971 storm. Truly remarkable. I can see how bad it was and I'm more than certain that it must've been a huge experience for you. Such powerful winds must have been a result of a vigorous cold front along with a huge area of low pressure, most likely a Colorado low, similar to what we've seen yesterday, though not as powerful winds, but the snow accumulations weren't too far off in comparisson! I'm truly impressed. Yesterday's storm was a result of a Colorado low in combination with an Alberta clipper merging and thus a big storm, but the differences between airmasses weren't the strongest of gradients to cause powerful wind currents. Keep in mind that there was cold Arctic air that settled in prior to that. Usually winds are quite strong when a cold air flow, like a cold front moves into an already much warmer area, causing the warm air to rise up quickly, depending on the strength of the front.

In any case, Pierre, those winds that you've experienced that day were well passed the forces of that of a category 1 hurricane!

Thank you for sharing this information with me. You were right, this is surely interesting! But it's still scary in some circumstances.

Regards,

Trav.

Author Salutes lover
Member 
#13 | Posted: 18 Dec 2005 12:39 
Enkil,

I am a lot like you are, when it comes to snowstorms. I love them very much and the more snow, the happier I am!

As for the snowstorm on March 4th 1971, I will always remember it and it was by far, the best I have experienced in my life. No one seems to agree about the amount of snow that fell on the ground on that memorable day.....the clip I sent to Trav says 42 cm, while the text besides it says 50cm. Météomédia says 48cm when it looks back on it, while you say that CFCF says 43cm. All I know, is that skidoos were the only vehicles able to move on Henri-Bourassa blvd and that cars, trucks were abandonned in the middle of the streets and were entirely covered by snow........and the snowmobiles had to go around them! ;-) The wind was also incredible and I remember having to bend my head down to be able to walk while my face was whipped by heavy snow. You could not see one foot in front of you I think that the strong wind had a lot to do with the seriousness of the March 4th 1971 snowstorm and I think all Montrealers do remember it......just ask those who are old enough to remember.....ask them what date it was, when they experienced their worse snowstorm and you are sure that March 4th 1971 will come up on their lips, pretty quickly!

Pierre, a March 4th 1971 survivor......LOL

Author Salutes lover
Member 
#14 | Posted: 18 Dec 2005 12:49 
Trav,

I suggest you watch Météomédia next March 4th, as they usually look back on that storm of 1971 with clips showing how bad it was. They also usually explain how it happened and why the conditions were so bad. Last March, they even asked people to send them emails, explaining what happened to them on that day and what they remember of it! I found that very interesting! I will watch Météomédia again, next March 4th, for sure.

I am telling you Trav, you should go an apply for a weatherman job, either at Météomédia or the Weather channel....they would hire you on the spot!

Pierre

Author Smoke
Member 
#15 | Posted: 19 Dec 2005 13:04 
Hi Pierre,

Once again, I'm interested in knowing about March 4th, 1971. Once I hear storms like this, I go nuts! I will be sure to watch TWN that day. I believe they show main events of weather history. They ofte broadcast it when the day comes, so I'll be sure to minitor that.

Also, I wanted to ask you a couple of things. First, I would really love it if perhaps, when you have the time, maybe you can email me, or write it here, since it's relevant, of what you did that day and all you can remember of it.

Second, I do remember some other major storms. Do you remember thses ones? The big electrical storm on the morning of July 5th, 1999? There was also a flashflood associated with a mature to severe thunderstorm that dumped so much rain at probably the greatest intensity! This was in July 1987. I was only 3 at the time, but I remember it somewhat. And of course, who can forget another storm of the century, which is the ice storm in January 1998! That was something else, too!

As for the weatherman thing, well, one day, I hope to live my dream! It's just all the requirements I need that are holding me back, but I'm willing to them all! And, as always, thank you for your kind remarks, Pierre! I mean it!

Regards,

Trav.

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