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Author reflections_of_earth
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#1 | Posted: 20 Oct 2007 07:30 
I just noticed that the countries are announced somewhere december (1-2 months from now) I just want to ask you on what you're expecting for this coming season? What firms would you like to be invited? How about for the level of the competition what do you expect? Do you expect for some new innovations?

I just want to say that i would like some more asian countries to join cause we usually just get one or two in a year! I wish that the philippines would join this competition! Oh i also would like to see taiwan's san tai fireworks! They are a great team hehehe!!

I wish that the level of the competition in 2005 would come back because i noticed that during that year the teams joined were all very creative and all of them were really good which made the competition really tough.

As for the teams joining, i want the following firms to join, Ricardo caballer spain, luso pirotecnia portugal, parente fireworks italy, prestatech france, glorious group china, san tai taiwan, tamaya kitaharen japan, gotebork fyverkeri fabrik sweden, vacalluzco germany/italy, santa marija mqabba malta ( a great company), and maybe anyone from my country hehehehe!!

How about you what you think?

Hey paul do you know any of the countries or firms joining? any hints?

vander

Author fireworksforum
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#2 | Posted: 20 Oct 2007 08:05 
All I can say is that one of the ones you listed is supposed to have been invited - but, of course, I can't tell you which one I also know of one other that's not in the list too! A competition with just the companies you listed be awesome though!

Paul.

Author reflections_of_earth
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#3 | Posted: 20 Oct 2007 08:09 
I'm glad that atleast one of the firm i've listed must be invited!! hehehehe!! Oh some addition would be canada's apogee and america's atlas pyrovision, upto now atlas presents amazing pyromusicals like the ones in jaffreys that i've seen in youtube!! I know that a competition with all the ones i've listed would be great hehehehe!!!

Author Fuji
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#4 | Posted: 21 Oct 2007 12:53 
Vaccalluzzo is from Italy.... Beautiful choreograph shows....

Author Smoke
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#5 | Posted: 21 Oct 2007 13:34 
I hope to at least see Vicente Caballer or Igual (though Igual already performed here this year) from Spain or IPON SRL from Italy next season. I also would love to have Syd Howard Fireworks International from Australia make a return, as well as another Canadian firm outside Quebec representing Canada. And of course, some Asian firms would always make an interesting mix, but I wouldn't mind witnessing another firm from Taiwan.

I have a feeling there's going to be 8 participants again, like this past year.

Trav.

Author Fuji
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#6 | Posted: 21 Oct 2007 19:07 
I like IPON. They make good shells...

From the list above, there are some companies I've never heard before. Sometimes, it's good to get companies that are new to Montreal competition, they have something to prove and they do some very fresh ideas...

Then again the big operators has the experienced of mounting the very big shows...

Author fireworksforum
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#7 | Posted: 21 Oct 2007 20:44 
Syd Howard will not be returning, he sold the business a few years ago (it became Explosives Entertainment International). They're not even in Australia anymore and don't do fireworks displays.

Atlas Pyrovision Productions have been in Montreal several times. I don't think they will be back - just read a few threads on the 2003 results for a hint as to why.

Pirico (as mentioned in the thread on the Symposium) have been in Montreal - they are the manufacturing arm of Parente.

Speaking of IPON, I talked with Benito Pagano at the Symposium He's quite flattered there is such a fan club here on the forum for his shells

The full schedule will be released soon - we'll just have to be patient

Paul.

Author reflections_of_earth
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#8 | Posted: 22 Oct 2007 03:57 
I wonder when soon is! hehehehe!

Oh that kind of sucks that atlas might not come back to montreal! Their pyromusicals are always great!! It also sucks that syd howard won't come back! Maybe another company from australia shoul join again! most of them are good! Like foti and howard and sons! Maybe show fx should join hehehehe!!!

Oh benito pagano must be really proud of himself! Their shells are probably one of the better ones in italy although there are tons more pyro companies in italy such as bruscella, romano, and De luca hehehe!!!

sorry bout vaccalluzco i got confused between them and gamma p.

As for spain they should choose someone else from spain! They are a lot of pyro companies that are great there! Maybe they should invite europla ones there ground salutes ryhtyms are one of the best i've seen in videos! Probably better to see them live!

im still being patient bout the schedule!! heheheh! Some more hints??
Vander

Author Fuji
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#9 | Posted: 22 Oct 2007 09:16 
Kiko - Europla is one very good Choreographer. The reason why they don't join competitions? Summer season in Spain IS their busy season.

Author Rovira
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#10 | Posted: 22 Oct 2007 15:20 
^^ I don't think so.

Igual, Ricardo Caballer and also Vicente Caballer are companies with more experience and then more displays to do in summer. Europla is not here in Spain on the first line of the ranking. Their mascletas, and more their salutes sequences are very famous, but nothing else. One question, have you ever seen a show from Europla (a night or pyromusical show) ?

Maybe their choreographies with salutes are famous and very well done, but I've seen Europla in some night displays and from my point of view they don't have the level to join this competition.

I think Antonio Caballer or even Zaragozana ( the most awesome colors I've ever seen) are better in terms of timming and choreographie. If not take a look on the night displays during the last week of Las Fallas...why Europla is not on the shedule?¿ Because maybe their mascletas are great, but not his night displays. A amscleta is very very very very very very very different of a pyromusical. If you're only looking for choreographies with salutes then Europla is your best choice, but if not (an this is my case) Europla is not the best option. ;-)

Just a thougt ;-)

Author Rovira
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#11 | Posted: 22 Oct 2007 15:38 
Then....my wishes:

1- Gamma-p or Weco (Germany)
2- Luso Pirotecnia (Portugal)
3- Prestatech (France)
4- Ipon or Parente ( Italy)
5- Tamaya (Japan)
6- Atlas Pyrovision (The States)
7- I've seen some shows from Russian companies very well done. I don't remember the name.
8- Vicente Caballer (Spain)

* maybe you should give another opprortunity to Gotebork Fyverkeri Fabrik (Sweeden).


* One more thing: I think it could be great to change the last display and give it to the winner of the last competition. For exemple the closing for the 2008 season should be Pains fireworks, and for the 2009 season the winner of the 2008 season. Then it will be always great displays (because their are the winners) and with more creativity ( at least more diversity ). What do you think?¿






* Rovira

Author reflections_of_earth
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#12 | Posted: 23 Oct 2007 05:10 
Yes i've seen a video of their night display in the blanes fireworks festival 2006 t was awesome!! I think they won that also!

Author Fuji
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#13 | Posted: 23 Oct 2007 06:37 
I've seen the last night of the fallas. And yes that's a very impressive selection they got there. I think it was a Ricasa show.

I agree that the big companies has the capacity to mount the big shows. But that's just it, if given the same inventory of effects, the smaller companies can also do the same.

What I admire about the smaller companies are their creativity. They have something to prove, so they will do something different, out of the box, hence the battucada or the musical mascleta.

I also like what vaccalluzzo did, they have limited colors and effects yet they've done some good things with the Monetti sequencers.

Doing something different raises the standards of the show...

Author reflections_of_earth
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#14 | Posted: 23 Oct 2007 07:06 
^^^^^ i agree! Small companies tend to do better sometime than bigger companies!! It's not about winning the title in montreal it's about showing what a company can really do! Big companies tend to make their pyromusicals "safe", meaning that it might be very simple!! Big companies are known because they have the money to produce their products

One great example would be how malta is not that famous yet! This is because they make their fireworks out of different materials such as newspapers and things like that but then i got to say that their shells are 10x better than most companies!

Just to say europla did beat zaragozana in blanes last year with their amazing fireworks display!! I dont think antonio caballers pyromusicals are better than that of ricasa's and vicente caballers!

Author reflections_of_earth
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#15 | Posted: 23 Oct 2007 07:13 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jef_6H8kASs That show's a video of a night display by europla. For the others who doesnt know what were talkin about with the mascleta (ground salutes) here it is!! at the very beginning! Its a more defined version of the ritmo segment by luso in 2005! This one was just made with ground salutes!

And here's a pyromusical that i watched that was made by them!!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1895905609449203796&q=europla &total=14&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=8

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