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Author TRae
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#16 | Posted: 6 Dec 2009 22:50 
Thanks to both Rachel and Simon for their photos.

Having been to most of the Feux Sur Glace displays the past few years I would agree with STL that it was quite good. The tempo of the display was (somewhat atypically) downbeat as Ampleman favoured slow musical numbers to faster ones - it convincingly got across the idea of their theme which had to do with the coming of winter. While I did not find it much more repetitive than most other Feux Sur Glace displays, I believe that Ampleman recycled a soundtrack device that they've used in the past (perhaps I'm mistaken and it was another firm that has used it) which saw the firm use gusting winter winds to segue between segments. I really liked how it was used last year (or the year before) but did not appreciate it as much the second time around.

All in all it was a lovely evening, as has been mentioned above. I, again, hope to be there this coming Saturday.

Tyler

Author rachelita
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#17 | Posted: 7 Dec 2009 07:01 
thanks

I used the D40 and the 17-40 and wished I had brought my 10-22 instead, but there is still a next time

In post processing, I usually use a very large brush on the burn tool, set to shadows at about 20% and pass quickly over the areas which contains a lot of smoke. This makes the smoke areas darker but does not touch the highlight areas, i.e. the fireworks themselves. Then I use also a brush on the dodge tool and set it to highlights and pass the brush on some of the highlights that got lost behind the darker background - so that sort of increases contrast overall, but where I want it to show - sometimes I will simply use the saturation brush and go over some of the colors on some of the fireworks, but will rarely use saturation over the entire image.

Hope that helps. Also I always underexpose by -1 at the time of taking the shot

Author Mylene Salvas
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#18 | Posted: 7 Dec 2009 16:17 
Therefore, I'd think that the biggest bombs were probably 8 inches,

STL, 6 inches is the maximum allowed. At least it was last year. Glad you enjoyed the show.

Author STL
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#19 | Posted: 7 Dec 2009 18:06 
STL, 6 inches is the maximum allowed. At least it was last year. Glad you enjoyed the show.

Well, then my eyes played tricks on me ! The following picture shows half a burst and it was huge in person ! I never though that 6 inches shells could make so big of an explosion.



Well, you know better than I on that topic ! 6 inches max. does makes sense regarding to the distance from the mortars if I remember the course correctly.

STL

Author reloadable shell
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#20 | Posted: 10 Dec 2009 19:57 
C'est bien de la 6'' qui est tiré sur le site, le service des incendie font eu même le check pour s'assurer qu'on respecte les normes.

Certaine bombe ouvres plus gros q'une bombe régulière, c'est le cas pour la gamme de produits red eagle, elle ouvres presque comme des 8''.

Author STL
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#21 | Posted: 10 Dec 2009 20:24 
C'est bien de la 6'' qui est tiré sur le site, le service des incendie font eu même le check pour s'assurer qu'on respecte les normes.

Certaine bombe ouvres plus gros q'une bombe régulière, c'est le cas pour la gamme de produits red eagle, elle ouvres presque comme des 8''.


Wow ! C'est quand même un peu comique de voir une bombe qui monte aussi haut et dont l'explosion est presque équivalente à une 8" être considérée malgré tout comme une 6".

En tout cas, tant mieux si c'est permis, ça permet d'ajouter du piquant au spectacle.

Est-ce que quelqu'un sait combien ça coûte par spectacle ? Si le chiffre de 150 000 $ pour l'International des Feux Loto-Québec est exact, un feu du calibre des Feux sur glace ne doit certainement pas dépasser les 50 000 $...

Author reloadable shell
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#22 | Posted: 10 Dec 2009 20:59 
C'est formellement interdit de mettre a feux des bombes 6'' sur le quai jacque-cartier.

Le service des incendie de montréal est assez sévère sur la sécurité d'un feux d'artifice, tout est scruté a la loupe, du moins lorsqu'il font la visite du site a la dernière heures avant le feux..

L'budget oscille normalement dans les 18 000-20 000$ c'est l'prix d'une voiture quoi! C'est Telus qui est le sponsor de l'évènement, donc il use de nos factures de message textes pour faire ces évènements! lol

C'est une question de distance, puis bon le 6'' fait ampleman le travail sur un feux de cet envergure.

Author fireworksforum
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#23 | Posted: 11 Dec 2009 17:00 
Si le chiffre de 150 000 $ pour l'International des Feux Loto-Québec est exact, un feu du calibre des Feux sur glace ne doit certainement pas dépasser les 50 000 $...

There's a difference between cost and price. The Montreal competition displays are not a good benchmark to use for pricing as the competitors usually do not try to make a profit from them whereas a public display like the Feux Sur Glace ones will certainly be for-profit. Fireworks companies are not charities! The 18-20k quoted above sounds about right from what I've seen of the displays and what I've worked on myself over the years.

As for shell size, 6" is definitely the maximum - but some hard-breaking shells often appear to be "one size" bigger than one would think. This was dramatically demonstrated when Royal introduced their Dancing Dragon products at the Canadian Fireworks Association convention in Calgary there were gasps from the audience as the 2" shells broke like 3s, the 3" like 4s and the 6" definitely like 8". A good 6" shell as close up as the safety regulations allow is always impressive. People forget that in the Montreal competition the 6" shells are at almost the same distance from the audience as the 8, 10 and 12" shells and so seem smaller than is the case in other venues.

Paul.

Author reloadable shell
Member 
#24 | Posted: 12 Dec 2009 18:14 
Hmm good evening to see the BEM fireworks display! I gotta go see that show!

Author Rovira
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#25 | Posted: 12 Dec 2009 21:08 
Hi guys ! No videos this year ?

Author rachelita
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#26 | Posted: 12 Dec 2009 21:27 
you can put your videos on my site Paul, if you are looking for a place to host them

Author STL
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#27 | Posted: 13 Dec 2009 08:52 
A good show by B.E.M., with a lot of smoke and some burning debris as an unwanted bonus.

I think their pace was better than Ampleman, as I did not found the show to be repetitive. Yet, I sometimes kept my attention on the flaming debris so I might have missed some sequences. Still, the maltese wheel was a very nice addition.

This is the last time I get so close from the firing ramps, as the resulting pictures are too cramped for my liking, even if I make good use of my 10-20mm super wide zoom. You can see what I mean on the obligatory link to my website.

Well, next week I'll experience first hand what it feels like to be on the firing ramps. I somehow managed to convince Royal that I'd like to work with them as an assistant, so they booked me on two events : next week's Fire on Ice and New Year's Eve show. I just hope I won't be frozen solid at the end of the day !

STL

Author rachelita
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#28 | Posted: 13 Dec 2009 10:01 
Thanks Simon for your post and your images

I just started editing mine so here are a few which you can see on either my facebook page or higher resolution ones on my pbase website

PBASE: http://pbase.com/rachelita/telus (all the ones which title starts with telus-BEM)

FACEBOOK:
Share this album with anyone by sending them this public link:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=356126&id=649195051&l=261386f753

The smoke and wind were problemetic for me however. I liked to see the snow and ice on some of my shots, so that made it different from last week - I also enjoyed the music

I shot from a different point of view and did not see the debris flying as I was a lot further - but the burning smell was intense and affected my poor asthma afflicted lungs - I am fine now but I sure was happy not to be as close as you were Simon.

Author reloadable shell
Member 
#29 | Posted: 13 Dec 2009 11:10 
J'ai bien aimée le feux, a l'exception des débris des bombes kamuro qui tombait sur le public, moi j'y avait pensé d'avance ou m'installer en sachant la direction des vents, donc j'ai eu une très belles vue du feux et j'ai reçus a peines quelque débris, mais sa gardait du piquant pendand le feux après tout!

J'ai aimée la roue maltaise, est-ce la première fois aux fire on ice? Je m'en rappelle pas d'avoir vus sa les années précédente.

Bad for you Rachelita, the black powder smell is the best fragrance!

Next, Royal..

Author Smoke
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#30 | Posted: 13 Dec 2009 17:44 
Does anybody have an idea as to the general compass direction most of the audience faces when viewing these displays? I have an idea of the site and its surroundings, but I'm not too certain where most of the audience tends to congregate to watch the fireworks. Based on Rachel's comment regarding the smoke and wind, however, I'm guessing that most of the spectators are facing the Southwest direction as that is where the winds were coming out from yesterday evening after shifting from the earlier Westerly flow.

I'm simply asking as I would like to incorporate the possibility of smoke inconvenience into the forecasts.

Trav.

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